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Post by richard on Mar 5, 2013 4:57:48 GMT 10
dont like sheiko its not preformed well enough form wise i think about technique technique sheiko erodes technique and form in alot of people especially in new lifters
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Post by pritchard on Mar 5, 2013 7:37:01 GMT 10
dont like sheiko its not preformed well enough form wise i think about technique technique sheiko erodes technique and form in alot of people especially in new lifters Good point Richard- what sort of approach would you recommend for someone wanting to get better technique- wise?
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Post by greekiwi on Mar 5, 2013 9:50:06 GMT 10
I went with Sheiko for just over 2 years and i really enjoyed this. Now i just do as I am told by OB at powerhouse gym. I don't ask questions, just do as i am told.
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Post by gp on Mar 5, 2013 10:14:14 GMT 10
Why is that sheiko erodes technique. For beginner templates, intensity is generally pretty low. Take 32 for example, only 18 in total are above 80% in the whole program - and they are only for doubles. Mostly training is in the 65-75% range, venturing up to 80% occasionally. I would have thought that this would reinforce rather than erode technique.
Or is the low intensity the problem, not enough technical practice in the comp lifts at near maximal weights?
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Post by battler on Mar 5, 2013 11:30:19 GMT 10
I'm doing RTS overlay on a 3x weekly full body program based on my limited understanding of Block Periodization, working mostly between 75~85% intensity as recommended for my level.
I like RTS mainly because it works to maximize my productivity every session.
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Post by greekiwi on Mar 5, 2013 11:35:40 GMT 10
Why is that sheiko erodes technique. For beginner templates, intensity is generally pretty low. Take 32 for example, only 18 in total are above 80% in the whole program - and they are only for doubles. Mostly training is in the 65-75% range, venturing up to 80% occasionally. I would have thought that this would reinforce rather than erode technique. Or is the low intensity the problem, not enough technical practice in the comp lifts at near maximal weights? I would have thought the same? I know for me Sheiko was an issue when it came to equipped lifting. There wasn't enough training done at that higher % range. The issue i had with this was when it came to a comp (especially for squats), it was hit and miss for depth and I never went in feeling confident. For raw lifting, i would have thought Sheiko would be ok for beginner to intermediate level, especially for volume, or am I looking this wrong?
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Post by webby on Mar 5, 2013 13:37:01 GMT 10
I'm only a begginer and i feel like sheiko has improved my technique immensely. The frequency of the the program means i'm performing all the big three almost three times as much as i would on all the other programs i've tried. And with the RTS adaptions i'm lifting some near maximal lifts as well. I haven't done a comp since starting it so until Nats won't be able to comment on the carry over to comp lifts but my training weights are bigger then i've ever lifted
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Post by pritchard on Mar 5, 2013 13:39:41 GMT 10
I think at the end of the day, the biggest factor for improving is repetitions.
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Post by mcw on Mar 5, 2013 13:52:45 GMT 10
Ive tried a few basic programs but nothing as full on as Sheiko. Currently modifying a deadlift one that I have used in the past with good results. Will be testing on myself and one other person. Its almost like a Westside type approach, using a lot of speed and power.
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Post by BenchPolkov on Mar 5, 2013 13:53:50 GMT 10
I love the sheer volume of sheiko, especially for bench.
Plus the constant reps allow constant form practice IMO.
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Post by richard on Mar 5, 2013 14:11:53 GMT 10
good to see there is good up front talk about programs, a good set of good eyes looking at your form at the beginning may save you years of average lifting and yes 1 good lift three white lights is what we are after more good ones than bad ones would be a good place to start
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Post by pritchard on Mar 5, 2013 15:13:59 GMT 10
good to see there is good up front talk about programs, a good set of good eyes looking at your form at the beginning may save you years of average lifting and yes 1 good lift three white lights is what we are after more good ones than bad ones would be a good place to start can't argue with that advice.
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Post by webby on Mar 10, 2013 7:00:30 GMT 10
Got a question for those who have done RTS leading up to a comp. What does mike usually do in the way of deloading before hand/ hitting some heavy singles or doubles? I just got my next weeks training and there is nothing different to the last couple of weeks. fatigue %'s are the same, reps are the same and exercise frequency has stayed the same.
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Post by pritchard on Mar 10, 2013 10:07:24 GMT 10
The last week should have light weights all week. What does this week look like?
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Post by pritchard on Mar 10, 2013 10:09:39 GMT 10
The last week is basically the same as the sheiko final week of 32. Nothing heavy- maintaining frequency etc. Normally for me he would get me to do something like 2@9 on my last heavy squat session the week before the deload.
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