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Post by jrd on Aug 12, 2013 20:40:17 GMT 10
That table is for equipped lifters. I am CMS in Russia!
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Post by paulmac on Aug 13, 2013 10:09:14 GMT 10
Was there anything said about older lifters? While Russia has lots of good junior and open lifters, there's not many left when they get to masters
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Post by jrd on Aug 13, 2013 10:54:50 GMT 10
Nope, I don't think they care about masters.
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Post by pritchard on Aug 13, 2013 11:39:17 GMT 10
Was there anything said about older lifters? While Russia has lots of good junior and open lifters, there's not many left when they get to masters I think thats a misconception. You might say the same about swimmers or track athletes. Where are the masters? At the masters games etc. Why dont we see as many Russian masters powerlifters- one reason will be funding. The open and juniors are funded- I dont know if they place any value on masters. But that doesnt mean they dont exist.
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Post by jrd on Aug 13, 2013 12:13:26 GMT 10
Gagin, Volkov etc. are masters, but compete in open.
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Post by hawkeye on Aug 14, 2013 16:46:22 GMT 10
My favourite quote was: "Deadlifts from a deficit with chains are a very hard movement. This a good exercise to torture the lifter." LOL that ws my favorite part too. At first i didnt think there was much info there but in hindsight i have learned and confirmed a stack. He made it quite clear that the specific intensity window of 72% ish is crucial but how you acheive that is very adaptable depending on the lifter. I take that as for the different lifts too IE for me bench of higher volume less intensity i know works while squats i wear out and lose form but react to high intensity so the opposite is true. Also he said that depending on outside influences you need to adjust. We can look at the program of an athlete over there but when we go to work have kids keeping us up get sick miss meals etc etc we have to consider this. He said his great lifters do miss and skip lifts too with a noted reason. All this tells us we dont have to say oh well im sick and i got no sleep but boris said 5 sets of 3 at 85% so i must do it... Recovery is strength so tone it down and recover. Its very easy to load an athlete... But to load them and have them to recover is they key...
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Post by pritchard on Aug 15, 2013 9:04:37 GMT 10
69-72% go to 73% and you die
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Post by gp on Aug 15, 2013 9:07:52 GMT 10
Is this average intensity across the 4 week period?
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Post by pritchard on Aug 15, 2013 9:19:13 GMT 10
per week He suggested that ideally they sit between 69-72- the key being that once things cranked up to the higher end they invariably had to drop down a little as well. He also looked at the distribution of lifts across % to see how the average was made up. He was highly critical of Hatfield, Smolov etc because of they spread of lifts- going from light one week then steadily increasing.
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Post by gp on Aug 15, 2013 9:30:43 GMT 10
Interesting. That's pretty much where Prep cycle 2/3 is sitting every week if you work into the higher end of the range. 37 is lower, only dipping into the bottom end of that scale for squats and bench. Only deadlift gets into 70%.
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Post by hawkeye on Aug 15, 2013 9:38:48 GMT 10
His words actually translated as "you die like a dog"... Yelp!
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Post by webby on Aug 15, 2013 14:18:44 GMT 10
how do you calculate your average intensity. is it just on weight lifted or do the number of reps completed on that weight play a role as well. Or just sets on that specific weight?
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Post by BenchPolkov on Aug 15, 2013 14:32:29 GMT 10
Number of reps count as well.
I multiply all the reps at each % by that %. Then add products of each calculation and divide by the total reps. I think that's right?
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Post by webby on Aug 15, 2013 15:03:11 GMT 10
that would give you a % intensity for each rep but what about the difference in sets of different reps. e.g. doing a set of 20 at 70% versus doing a bucket load of doubles at the same weight. Does he count that as causing the same stress or calculate that in somewhere?
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Post by pritchard on Aug 15, 2013 15:04:44 GMT 10
yeah- average intensity is just the average % of all lifts.
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